New Ottawa LETS Timebank to fund revolutionary activity

[KingofthePaupers]

Jct: I'll be in running in the Mar 4 2010 Ottawa West-Nepean provincial byelection and will be in town between Feb 18 and Mar 4. I wonder how many revolutionaries would like to form an Ottawa Timebank.

One great advantage: In 1999, I paid for 39/40 nights in Europe with an IOU for a night back in Canada worth 5 Hours. Imagine having organised accommodations in other towns by providing accommodations to out-of-towners in Ottawa. http://johnturmel.com/unilets.htm is my rudimentary personal timebank account I created just to prove anyone could do-it-yourself too.

If I can record Hours of what I am proud to call revolutionary activity, why can't you too?

Except it would be best to have a large online database to guarantee accommodations to the world when they accommodate one of your group.

[Transition Ottawa (/jd)]

This sounds intriguing. Is there a way to get a comprehensive handle on the concept?

[Tess Frost]

I know Mensa has something like this - I think they call it the Site program. My sister joined largely so that she could take advantage of it and stayed with someone in Vancouver who has become one of our best friends in Canada. I am sure many like myself could enlist overseas friends.

As for other stuff, who is going to start one when? Only I have a Subaru Legacy 1999 that is mouldering in our driveway. We have to sell it asap, but we need help to get it running again, The engine was going real rough when it last ran about a year ago. I can offer painting - portraits or landscapes or houses or furniture, text editing to a high level including university theses etc (well, that's actually my husband's dept but it's his car too), various arts and crafts like bookbinding, sewing and so on - including lessons, draing, including some technical, cooking, kid sitting, research, what have you in exchange.

So now we just need to set up a register? I might be able to get a database fundi friend of mine to set up a database in exchange for other services - unless there is someone already in the group who would like to tackle that. I could go some way towards managing it as well.

Anyone?

[KingofthePaupers]

"So now we just need to set up a register? I might be able to get a database fundi friend of mine to set up a database in exchange for other services - unless there is someone already in the group who would like to tackle that. I could go some way towards managing it as well Anyone
Jct: http://johnturmel.com/unilets.htm is my rudimentary timebank account listing what I offer, what I want, and my trades, what I've provided and what I've used, denominated in Hours so I can account with other countries timebanks where each pegs their national currency to the Time Standard of Money. 60 Francs/hour, 20 Marks/hour, 6 Pounds/hr, $12 Dollars CA /hour.
But I've struck on an easier way, Bus Bucks. Every town in the world with buses could trade bus tickets for useful work out of the unemployed. See my Bus Bucks campaign at http://johnturmel.com Robert Gauthier, candidate for Ottawa mayor, is the only one supporting Bus Bucks Jobs so far.

[Tess Frost]

Hi again,

I have glanced at your website, but have not got the time to browse it as thoroughly as I would like as I am struggling with a necessary update to a database I am working on.

The time records are great, a fantastic concept, though I would prefer something that shows totals, and lets you explore details if you want to. It also needs to be quicker to read. So layout would have to be worked on. Text size larger - not everyone can read so small. That kind of detail. Sorry, I tend to pick nits. My husband says I am "cursed with perfectionism"

Would all the recipients of your efforts have to be in the system, or would they simply be records of community service for eg, like your accordion concerts, which are wonderful for the listeners, a benefit to the community as a whole, but only indirectly through that last beneficial to me, and I wouldn't even know about it had I not read your "account"?

Could I for instance record hours that I spent, when I was still in South Africa where I was born, helping give lessons to rural women in how to sew their own clothes? I mean it contributes to the world community in that it gives some otherwise fairly disempowered people useful skills with which to better their lives, but it has no impact on my current community. Especially since it was, oh, 20 years ago? Whereas you efforts have been accumulating "interest" in community development over here.

As to the actual "accounting records" I think that some kind of Transitions-hosted barter exchange would be most useful to us at this stage, because we are already set up with accounts etc. I have no clue how it would be expanded to include a record of our exchange credits though. It could also be fairly easily expanded to extend to other Transitions groups - I hope and assume.

Bus bucks - the problem I have with that is that not everyone would be able to pass them on quickly enough for their needs, as they might not always have someone whose services they need willing to take them. For other reasons too, I am npt quite sure I see them working.

But I am willing to be convinced - again when I have time I will investigate the site you mention.

Thanks for posting all this stuff. I have been feeling rather frustrated at the whole monetary system, especially the capitalist free market system, but cannot envisage anything else.

[Sébastien Bacharach]

Hey there,
I am becoming more and more interested in alternative ways besides $$ myself. I recommend checking out themoneyfix.org
It is a website for the movie The Money Fix, and it has a resources page with different online softwares that you can use to set something up in your community. I am posting this here because I could not find these resources on johnturmel.com
Also, I just bought the Local Money Transition book...

Be well,
Sebastien.

[KingofthePaupers]

Jct: Any time I see my nemesis in Banking Systems Engineering, Bernard "The Banker" Lietaer, I turn it off or I end up posting critiques of all his mistakes. He's never seen the UNILETS Time Standard of Money Big Picture and has led the forces diverting attention away from the Millennium Declaration C6 solution to his error-lader theories. Just Google for Turmel Lietaer and read the posts where I once caught something like 7 mistakes in 14 lines, and videos where I've pointed out his errors. And this bum in Banking Systems Engineering is their expert! No, he's a Judas Goat leading them away from the UNILETS banking done on Earth as it is in Heaven, interest-free.

[Ron Rancourt]

Thanks Sebastien,

Here's an interesting video of Thomas Greco - http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/watch-thomas-greco-at-the-econo...

I'm not familiar with him but I enjoyed the video. His new book is called The End of Money and the Future of Civilization.
Cheers,
Ron


Sébastien Bacharach said:

Hey there,
I am becoming more and more interested in alternative ways besides $$ myself. I recommend checking out themoneyfix.org
It is a website for the movie The Money Fix, and it has a resources page with different online softwares that you can use to set something up in your community. I am posting this here because I could not find these resources on johnturmel.com
Also, I just bought the Local Money Transition book...

Be well,
Sebastien.

[KingofthePaupers]

Tess Frost: "The time records are great, a fantastic concept,
JCT: I think of it as my shingle, my scorecard, where I can
post time spent on any useful contribution to a happier
society.

TF: "though I would prefer something that shows totals, and
lets you explore details if you want to."

JCT: Of course, I'd love to post details of time contributed
that I'm proud of.

TF: It also needs to be quicker to read. So layout would have
to be worked on. Text size larger - not everyone can read so
small. That kind of detail. Sorry, I tend to pick nits. My
husband says I am "cursed with perfectionism"

JCT: That's programming. Right now, my
http://johnturmel.com/unilets.htm timebank account is
rudimentary but I haven't yet found an online system I've
chosen to join to handle those details for me. But they're
working on it everywhere. CES, Cyclos, Drupal, and all getting
better. Since they're all on the Time Standard, they will
inevitably communicate the basic data, To: From: How much:
Why:

TF: Would all the recipients of your efforts have to be in the
system,

JCT: Only those I trade with and who wish to trade with
others. We leave hermits alone.

TF: or would they simply be records of community service
for eg, like your accordion concerts, which are wonderful for
the listeners, a benefit to the community as a whole, but only
indirectly through that last beneficial to me, and I wouldn't
even know about it had I not read your "account"?

JCT: When I say that if you put me up for a 5-Hour night
somewhere in your hometown, is it easier or harder for you to
believe I'll find somewhere for you in my hometown if I've
proudly recorded doing so much volunteer community service? I
think so. So my shingle is where I post contributions I've
done or people have paid me that I'm proud of.

TF: Could I for instance record hours that I spent, when I was
still in South Africa where I was born, helping give lessons
to rural women in how to sew their own clothes? I mean it
contributes to the world community in that it gives some
otherwise fairly disempowered people useful skills with which
to better their lives, but it has no impact on my current
community. Especially since it was, oh, 20 years ago? Whereas
you efforts have been accumulating "interest" in community
development over here.

JCT: In US Timedollar systems, both the student tutors and
tutees record their hours because our society values kids who
spend time learning and kids who spent time teaching. So yes,
if I were you, I'd post your own tessfrost.com/unilets.htm
page recording your valuable contribution to their society. I
bet they host anyone you ever recommended so I'd take your
Timebucks too. Everyone should record their past volunteer
contributions just as a measure of credit-worthiness. And no
one can steal because your score-card is open for all to see.

TF: "As to the actual "accounting records" I think that some
kind of Transitions-hosted barter exchange would be most
useful to us at this stage, because we are already set up with
accounts etc. I have no clue how it would be expanded to
include a record of our exchange credits though. It could also
be fairly easily expanded to extend to other Transitions
groups - I hope and assume."

JCT: Yes, it's already been programmed by the online software
packages to do all that.

"Bus bucks - the problem I have with that is that not
everyone..

JCT: Though it is a solution for "everyone," I don't care that
it looks to you like it's only a solution for poor kids. So
what? I can help all the poor kids right away? So what if you
may not yet see the advantages to others not contributing
community service.

TF: "would be able to pass them on quickly enough for their
needs, as they might not always have someone whose services
they need willing to take them. For other reasons too, I am
npt quite sure I see them working."

JCT: Brantford could mobilize a million kid-hours a year
easily. Mobilizing the kids with bus rides could generate
several billions of kid-hours nastionally! See my videos at
http://johnturmel.com/busbucks.htm for proof every poor kid
and most rich said "I'll work for Bus Bucks." What does it
take to convince you mobilizing the kids first will mobilize
others too. Businesses are already pledge to use Bus Bucks!
They can be used in timebanks overseas like I did. Kids love
it. And I'm speaking to a class of grade 5s today. Should make
for a fun video. Besides, I don't need buses to start a great
timebank, but having such a credit-worthy member makes
everyone's Bus Bucks more credit-worthy too!

TF: "But I am willing to be convinced - again when I have time
I will investigate the site you mention."

JCT: I hope I've convinced you that Bus Bucks Jobs for kids is
a great "nothing-to-lose" first step and then hope I'm right
about the collateral effects on business in Brantford.

TF: Thanks for posting all this stuff. I have been feeling
rather frustrated at the whole monetary system, especially the
capitalist free market system, but cannot envisage anything
else.

JCT: Thanks for providing fodder for further education. It's
always a rush to answer questions that build on previous
infrastructure. I never contemplated what 5 billion kid Hours
could accomplish to service the needs of the poor, sick and
elderly. And though we could induce them just by recording
their hours, having the Transit system is cinch.

So watch out for busbucks12.mpg with the kids probably later
tonight with the kids.

[KingofthePaupers]

P.S. I emailed 1,800 Ontario municipal candidates in towns with buses and out of all Ottawa's candidates, only one, Robert Gauthier, has supported Bus Bucks. What can I say, most people just can't think outside the box. Vote for Robert Gauthier for Ottawa Mayor so your Bus Bucks can be used in Brantford as our Bus Bucks can be used in Ottawa.

[KingofthePaupers]

Ron Rancourt: "Here's an interesting video of Thomas Greco."
Jct: Poor Tom was a Local Currency advocate who never saw the UNILETS Big Picture of a global timebank. What can I say, the "keep it local and small crowd" of saboteurs that kept most LETS local and small until coma.

[Pamela Schreiner]

Is anyone working on a TimeBank for Ottawa?

[KingofthePaupers]

Jct: Why bother waiting to form a group? Just start your own timebank account and invite anyone you'ld like to register a trade with to do the same. You can go to the UNILETS Timebank Traders Facebook Group http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_146919308704209 and lay the keel of your own personal online financial timebarter lifeboat, how to get ready to face the oncoming shortage of money. 
http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php?fcode=98225700b&f=516216614#!/...